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  J.w at my door

  by The rock in

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  one day a lady came to my door she did not say she was a jehovah witness and she was all on her own.. she seemed very nice and started talking about having accurate knowledge and such like.

  i didn't have my bible at the moment.

  i said to her yes but the verse below that says that this knowledge is found in jesus i asked her what immanuel meant and she looked at me very strangly as if i had two heads.

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  The rock

  Hi Sally,

  Most of them don't make their return visits! Would that made a good Witness then to promise to return and not do so. ? Lots of love Take care
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  J.w at my door

  by The rock in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one day a lady came to my door she did not say she was a jehovah witness and she was all on her own.. she seemed very nice and started talking about having accurate knowledge and such like.

  i didn't have my bible at the moment.

  i said to her yes but the verse below that says that this knowledge is found in jesus i asked her what immanuel meant and she looked at me very strangly as if i had two heads.

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  Hi Jedi, Thank's Rock ,i have never seen this befora and i did not know Jesus real name . Maybe you should send this to the Watchtower so ,they could say " LOOK WE HAVE NEW LIGHT ON JESUS NAME"

  I doubt if they would listen to me. I seem to be a thorn in their side. One Jw told me I had an unhealthy obession about there faith lol. However they joined them not me. So I wonder what that makes them lol.

  Matthew does gives us also hints about Jesus name the following verse is taken from Matthew 1v 21 And she will bring forth a Son and you shall call His name Jesus for He will save His people from their sins.

  Footnote in my bible says The name Jesus means '' Yahwah Is Salvation.''

  Another name '' Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,'' which is translated,'' God with us.''

  in Matthew 21v 9 ''Hosanne to the Son of David!

  Hosanne means '' Save now''

  lots off love

  Take care
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  J.w at my door

  by The rock in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one day a lady came to my door she did not say she was a jehovah witness and she was all on her own.. she seemed very nice and started talking about having accurate knowledge and such like.

  i didn't have my bible at the moment.

  i said to her yes but the verse below that says that this knowledge is found in jesus i asked her what immanuel meant and she looked at me very strangly as if i had two heads.

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  The rock

  Hello.

  Jesus is translated correctly though. This is from the Jewish roots off faith website.

  Messianic Ministry sharing Yeshua the Jewish Messiah in Central Pennsylvania The Messianic Hebrew-Christian Fellowship Inc.

  YESHUA IN THE TENACH The name JESUS in the Old Testament
  by Arthur E. Glass

  In speaking with my Jewish brethren for the past many years in Canada, the United States, Argentina, and Uruguay, I had one great difficulty and it was this: my Jewish people would always fling at me this challenging question: "If Jesus is our Messiah and the whole Old Testament is about Him, how come His name is never mentioned in it even once?"
  
  I could never answer it satisfactorily to their way of thinking, and I admit I often wondered why His name was not actually written in the Old Bible. O yes, I could show them His divine titles in Isaiah 7:14; 9:6; Jeremiah 28:5,6, etc., and even the word MESSIAH (Christ) in several places; but the Hebrew name that would be equal to Jesus, that I could not show-until one day the Holy Spirit opened my eyes, and I just shouted. There was the very NAME Jesus found in the Old Testament about 100 times all the way from GENESIS to HABAKKUK! Yes, the very word-the very NAME that the angel Gabriel used in Luke 1:31 when he told Mary about the Son she was to have.
  
  "Where do we find that NAME?" you ask. Here it is, beloved: Every time the Old Testament uses the word SALVATION (especially with the Hebrew suffix meaning "my", "thy," or "his"), with very few exceptions (when the word is impersonal), it is the very identical and absolutely same word YESHUA (Jesus) used in Matthew 1:21. Let us remember that the angel who spoke to Mary and the angel who spoke to Joseph in his dream did not speak in English, Latin or Greek, but in Hebrew; and neither was Mary nor Joseph slow to grasp the meaning and significance of the NAME of this divine Son and its relation to His character and His work of salvation. For in the Old Testament all great characters were given names with a specific and significant meaning.
  
  For example in Genesis 5:29 Lamechcalled his son "Comfort (Noah), saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands." In Genesis 10:25, Eber calls his first-born son "Division (Peleg); for in his days the earth was divided." The same is true of Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob (changed to Israel-God's Prince), and all of Jacob's sons (see Genesis chapters 29-32). In Exodus 2:10 Pharaoh's daughter called the baby rescued from the Nile "Drawn-Forth (Moses); and she said, Because I drew him out of the water." And so we can go on and on to show the deep significance of Hebrew names.
  
  Now then, when the angel spoke to Joseph, husband of Mary and the mother of our Lord, this is what he really said and what Joseph actually understood: "And she shall bring forth a Son, and thou shalt call His name Yeshua (SALVATION) for he shall salvage (or save) His people from their sins." This text was so forcibly brought home to my soul soon after I was converted over 24 years ago, that I saw the whole plan of the Old Testament in that one ineffable and blessed NAME.
  
  So let us proceed to show clearly the Hebrew name YESHUA (Greek, Iesus: English, Jesus) in the Old Testament.
  
  When the great Patriarch Jacob was ready to depart from this world, he by the Holy Spirit was blessing his sons and prophetically foretelling their future experiences in those blessings. In verse 18 of Genesis 49 he exclaims, "I have waited for thy salvation, O Lord!" What he really did say and mean was, "To thy YESHUA (Jesus) I am looking, O Lord"; or, "In thy YESHUA (Jesus) I am hoping (trusting), Lord!" That makes much better sense.
  
  Of course, YESHUA (Jesus) was the One in Whom Jacob was trusting to carry him over safely the chilly waters of the river of death. Jacob was a saved man, and did not wait until his dying moments to start trusting in the Lord. He just reminded God that he was trusting in His YESHUA (Jesus-Salvation), and was at the same time comforting his own soul.
  
  In Psalm 9:14 David bursts forth: "I will rejoice in thy salvation!" What he actually did say and mean was, "I will rejoice in (with) thy YESHUA (Jesus)."
  
  In Psalm 91:14-16 God says, "because he delighted in me I will deliver him: I will set him on high (raise him above circumstances), because he hath known my name. He shall call me, and I will answer him; I am with him in affliction; I will succor him and honor him. With length of days (eternal life) will I satisfy him, and I will cause him to look upon my YESHUA (Jesus-Salvation)." Of course. That promise is realized in Revelation 22:3,4: "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and His servants shall serve Him; and they shall see HIS face."
  
  In Isaiah 12:2,3 we have something wonderful. Here SALVATION is mentioned three times. The reader will be much blessed by reading these glorious verses in his Bible but let me give them as they actually read in the original Hebrew with Jesus as the embodiment and personification of the word SALVATION: "Behold, mighty (or, God the mighty One) is my YESHUA (Jesus-in his pre-incarnation and eternal existence); I will trust and not be afraid; for JAH-JAHOVAH is my Strength and my Song; He also is become my YESHUA (Jesus "and the word became flesh, and dwelt among us"(John 1:14)-Jesus incarnate). Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of YESHUA (Jesus crucified-waters of salvation flowing forth from Calvary)."
  
  Something very interesting occurred one spring in St. Louis. I was visiting in the home of our friends, Mr. and Mrs. Charles Siegelman, and another Jewish man was present there. He claimed Jewish orthodoxy for his creed. Of course the conversation centered around Him Who is the Center of all things-Jesus. This good Jewish brother opposed the claims of Christ in the Old Testament verbally, and in a friendly thought, was to fling at me and at all of us there the well-known challenge: "You can't find the name 'Jesus' in the Old Testament;" and this he did.
  
  I did not answer him directly, but asked him to translate for us from my Hebrew Bible Isaiah 62:11. Being a Hebrew scholar, he did so with utmost ease, rapidity and correctness; and here is what and how he translated that text verbatim: "Behold, Jehovah has proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold thy YESHUA (Jesus) cometh; behold, His reward is with Him, and His work before Him" Just then he crimsoned as he realized what he had done and how he had played into my hands, and just fairly screamed out "No! No! You made me read it 'thy YESHUA' (Jesus), Mr. Glass! You tricked me!" I said, "No; I did not trick you; I just had you read the Word of God for yourself. Can't you see that here SALVATION is a Person and not a thing or an event? 'He comes; HIS reward is with HIM, and His work before Him.'" Then he rushed at his own Old Testament, talking away frantically, saying, "I'm sure mine is different from yours." And when he fount the passage, he just dropped like a deflated balloon: his Old Testament was of course identically the same. All he could use as an escape from admitting defeat was to deny the divine inspiration of the Book of Isaiah.
  
  Then skipping on to Habakkuk, we have the greatest demonstration of the NAME "Jesus" in the Old Testament; for here we have both the name as well as the title of the Savior. In 3:13 we read literally from the original Hebrew: "Thou wentest forth with the YESHA (variant of Yeshua-Jesus) of (or for) thy people; with YESHUA thy MESSIAH (thine Anointed One: i.e., with Jesus thy Christ); thou woundest the head of the house of the wicked one (Satan)." Here you have it! The very NAME given to our Lord in the New Testament-JESUS CHRIST! So don't let anyone-Jew or Gentile- tell you that the Name JESUS is not found in the Old Testament.
  
  And so when the aged Simeon came to the Temple, led there by the Holy Ghost, and took the baby Jesus in his arms, he said, "Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word; for mine eyes have seen thy YESHUA (Jesus)." Luke 2:29-30. Certainly! Not only did his eyes see God's SALVATION - God's YESHUA (Jesus) - but he felt Him and touched Him, as His believing heart throbbed with joy and assurance and as he felt the throb of the loving heart of God as it throbbed in the heart of the holy infant Jesus.

  "And thou shalt call His name SALVATION (YESHUA - Jesus);
  for He shall salvation-salvage-save His people from their sins!" Contact Lloyd at Seed of Abraham
  717-687-8913 Any Jewish person who wishes to learn more about Jesus the Messiah
  may have a copy of the New Testament, free, in English. Click here to Return to Main Page

  MESSIANIC HEBREW-CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP Inc . 2792 North Cherry Lane, Ronks, PA 17572 Tel# 717-687-8913

  e-mail: [email protected]

  This Web Site's URL is www.MessiahPA.org
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  Does anyone know Roughly

  by The rock in

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  does anyone know roughly how much an average j witness will pay out monthly for awake and the watchtower.

  as they ask people for donations at the door.

  do they get their money back they have spend on the mags.

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  Hello,

  Thanks everyone for the information most interesting. I am British to though not English lol.

  Thanks both off you for your impute.

  Lots of love

  Take care
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  J.w at my door

  by The rock in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one day a lady came to my door she did not say she was a jehovah witness and she was all on her own.. she seemed very nice and started talking about having accurate knowledge and such like.

  i didn't have my bible at the moment.

  i said to her yes but the verse below that says that this knowledge is found in jesus i asked her what immanuel meant and she looked at me very strangly as if i had two heads.

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  The rock

  Hello folks,

  One day a lady came to my door she did not say she was a Jehovah Witness and she was all on her own.

  She seemed very nice and started talking about having accurate knowledge and such like. I didn't have my bible at the moment. I said to her yes but the verse below that says that this Knowledge is found in Jesus I asked her what Immanuel meant and she looked at me very strangly as if I had two heads. She didn't seem to know and seemed a bit puzzled looking.

  She started on about God's name being Jehovah. I said to her that was quite right as a Catholic monk translated it wrong. He put YWAH and Adonai together and come up with Jehovah.

  She went on about good works then. Does anyone know what she meant by that?What good works to Jw's do?

  Good works don't save us.. All our good works are like dirty rags in God's sight.

  She seemed to think I had some bible knowledge and congralutated me on it for some strange reason.

  She shook my hand and said maybe we could speak again some other time about the Bible. She told me her name and left sadly she didn't come back. I wonder why did I say something wrong?

  Lots of love

  Take care
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  Does anyone know Roughly

  by The rock in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know roughly how much an average j witness will pay out monthly for awake and the watchtower.

  as they ask people for donations at the door.

  do they get their money back they have spend on the mags.

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  Does anyone know roughly how much an average J witness will pay out monthly for awake and the Watchtower. As they ask people for donations at the door. Do they get their money back they have spend on the mags. Or does the organisation also get that. Thereby getting payed twice for it. How much off a donation is asked for?

  How much money does the organisation make from it in a year and what happens to it all?

  Lots of love

  Take care
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  Does anyone fancy one lol

  by The rock in

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  x-jw t-shirt > t-shirts for the guys > hunyadi's xjw shop | cafepress

  can you just imagine walking up to a jw as he (or she) is selling their wt on the street corner and just 'hanging out for a while" :) .

  love to u all.

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  X-JW T-shirt > T-SHIRTS FOR THE GUYS > Hunyadi's XJW Shop | CafePress
  
  Can you just imagine walking up to a JW as he (or she) is selling their WT on the street corner and just 'hanging out for a while" :)
  

  Love to u all
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  Baptism

  by ConcernedMom in

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  what is the usual age for someone raised as a jw to be baptised?

  is the belief that you must be a baptised jw to survive armageddon?

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  Hello again,

  Yes Jesus did say that you must be born again. He said unless you are born - again you cannot enter the kingdom. The thief on the cross never got baptised yet Jesus said to him. This day you will be with me in paradise. The same if someone got killed by a car after they had be saved. Baptism is the sign or the witness of an inner change which has already happened. At least that's what I believe.

  Philip told the eunuch the good news about Jesus then he got baptised straight away.

  take care
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  Baptism

  by ConcernedMom in

  1. watchtower
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  what is the usual age for someone raised as a jw to be baptised?

  is the belief that you must be a baptised jw to survive armageddon?

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  Excuse my ignorance folks but if you are not baptised does that mean you cannot be disfellowshipped

  take care
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  How can I get the New World (english) Translation?

  by TioPato in

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  i'd like to know if it were possible to find the new world (english) translation on the web?

  i'm french and i only possess the french translation, both editions 1987 & 1995 (actually the french translation is not very good...).

  i heard that some copies formatted for e-sword were available somewhere on the web.

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  The rock

  Hello,

  I witness to the Witnesses though I have never been one.

  If you want an version straight away e-mail me. I have only just joined take care folks